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• Matt Gaetz - Proud Boy

  RickeyHoltsclaw

  May 17
  @jack ;  America may very well fall to your perverse and communist ilk...but not without a fight. Democrats, liberals, progressives, marxists, are horrible and evil people. 
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  

• Is Christianity a copy cat religion?

  MayCaesar

  7:47PM
  @Factfinder
  

  
  

  Indeed. I would go further and suggest that authoritarianism is merely a consequence of the deeper phenomenon: dismissal of individual autonomy. All of these ideas, at the end of the day, are grounded in the assumption that the life of the intelligent being only has value as long as it serves some "bigger purpose": the nation, the collective, the god, the family... That one's life is worthless unless it in some way is sacrificed on the altar of "higher good".

  
  

  Of course, humans cannot be trusted to make their sacrifice without a little "nudging". Hence the need for the Central Committee, or the Council of Elders, or the Holy See. More progressive people claim that only "god" himself can hold his children accountable. All of them are afraid of the individual making his own decisions and pursuing his own happiness. That is an uncontrolled variable, and that is scary.

  
  

  Luckily, this kind of thinking seems to be (very-very slowly) dying. The new generations are more interested in virtual worlds and AIs, than sermons and plenums. Give it a few more decades, and religion will be much like VHS tapes: something a tiny fraction of overly nostalgic people cares about, and everyone else only sees it in museums.
  

  

• There is nothing inherently wrong about rape, debate me

  Joeseph

  7:45PM
  @RickeyHoltsclaw
  
  
  
  ARGUMENT TOPIC:  IV 'E HIGHLIGHEDTHE WORDS MAD RICKEY KEEPE GETTING EMBARRESD ABOUT. RICKEY STILL CONTRADICTING HIS GODS OWN WORDS  
  
  

  
  

  
  

  At any rate, these few examples indicate that harsh slavery was/is a reality, and in all cases, is an unacceptable act by biblical standards.

  
  

  
  

  Stop lying heres your god in his own words saying it's perfectly acceptable to own people as property but never treat Israelis like this .

  
  

  
  

  However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

  
  

  
  

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• Is Christianity a copy cat religion?

  Factfinder

  6:48PM
  @MayCaesar
  
  I see close correlations' between all centralized oppressively authoritarian governments and the biblical power structures stressed in scripture. Not just communism. Always a head figure surrounded by the most loyal of staff dispensing the tenets of its rule over the masses where the power at the top remains unchecked and unquestioned lest you pay a severe price. The bible is replete with figure heads pronouncing judgments not of a criminal concern, but of a personal desire from the top figurehead, or a claim of it being done on its behalf if the main man, figure head happens to be imaginary. But check out this vision of gods court in the bible and tell me governments don't emulate it in ways, keep in mind this is just one chapter explaining part of gods "kingdom"...
  
  Revelation 4:
  

  4 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.

  2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.

  3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.

  4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.

  5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.

  6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.

  7 And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.

  8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.

  9 And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever,

  10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,

  11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

  

• How did Elohim turn the demonic horror of the Jewish Holocaust into eschatological victory?

  Factfinder

  6:18PM
  So god arranged the deaths of millions in order to satisfy an eschatological goal and praise itself. You're right May, at least one of the looneys admitted their imaginary god is a genocidal maniac.

  

• Is Christianity a copy cat religion?

  MayCaesar

  6:19PM
  The obvious thing Christians systematically miss is that if "god" truly created the entire Universe, then said "god" also caused everything that happened in this Universe. For instance, every time someone murders someone else, they do so because the Universe "god" created led them to do so.
  

  
  

  That is yet another reason why I find comparison between Christianity and Communism so apt: in both the idea of central planning is venerated. In the former the "god" is the central planner, while in the latter it is the Central Committee. In both cases mere plebs like you and me are nothing but cogs in the machine. The idea of individual sovereignty is not even on the radar here. And Communists, at least, do not subject those who have displeased them to eternal torment: one's tenure in Gulags is going to eventually end as their mind and body will give up. Stalin who has murdered tens of millions seems quite innocent, compared to a creature that allegedly has sent billions upon billions of humans (and, perhaps, lesser animals too?) to be tortured for eternity. And we do not even know if there are alien species out there... What if the Universe has trillions of civilizations, each supplying "Hell" with billions to trillions of souls every Solar year?
  

  
  

  I am not sure what love someone can hold for a creature like this, unless their psychology is completely twisted. It seems to me that if "god" really existed, then it would be by far the most vicious creature in the entire Multiverse, and slaying the beast would be the greatest accomplishment. In such a Multiverse whoever comes up with technology that can kill "god" is the greatest liberator ever to live.

  

• How did Elohim turn the demonic horror of the Jewish Holocaust into eschatological victory?

  Joeseph

  5:30PM
  @RickeyHoltsclaw
  
  Only to those who can't see because they're dead spiritually in servitude to Satan.
  
  Head to your local psychiatrist show him your posts on here and he will have you incarcerated for your own safety........no wonder you got fired from the force.

  

• How did Elohim turn the demonic horror of the Jewish Holocaust into eschatological victory?

  MayCaesar

  6:05PM
  At least one of you ultra-religious freaks finally admitted that your god played a role in Holocaust happening. I call it progress!
  

  

• Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election and Why?

  MayCaesar

  6:03PM
  All I can say is... I hope that in 2028 we do note have two such pathetic candidates running at the front.

  

• Christianity v. Athiesm; Light v. Darkness, Commonsense v. Absurdity?

  Joeseph

  2:53PM
  @RickeyHoltsclaw
  
  Ha, Ha god answers all prayers with a yes or no ...........read that again it's hilarious